Vogler, Christopher. “The Writer’s Journey”. Stages of the Journey. Studio City, CA: Michael Wiese Productions, 1998. 107-125.
Obviously these passages are the questions we ask about heroes. Vogler expresses the idea that every hero has at least one question but one is very unlikely since there are so many things to cover about the hero. Vogler goes through each stage of the heroes journey and explains what questions should arise and what the reader should be contemplating about the story. Vogler starts off in the ordinary world (as usual) and feeds the reader what they should be thinking .A few examples are, internal and external questions, how to introduce the hero into the story, what the hero lacks, what is there to lose, and theme. All these questions go into depth and Vogler tells the reader how to look for these elements. The next section in the reading is the call to adventure.
I love how Vogler spoon feeds the reader. I mean I don’t mind looking things up and asking questions for myself, but I like that he gives us the questions to ask. We just have to find the answers. I enjoy reading Voglers side of everything, if he made a cookbook I would live off it. I enjoy that there are so many questions to ask the hero also, I love getting to know the person that I am supposed to love in the story. For instance all the quirks and shadows or things that make them twitch, its something different to look at than the regular old archetype hero that goes and saves the community and has no background, who is just the guy who saves everyone. But when the reader sees that he has flaws or he has loves of his own, he becomes human, life is brought to him. And through the questions that Vogler wants us to find answers for, we will find the answers.
Why do you think Vogler likes to spoon feed us?
Can his explanations of questions be used for anyone?
How do you feel about the hero coming to life?
i dont know how to look at other peoples blogs thats why i have answered any questions....
Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Monday, September 29, 2008
songs related to pathos logos and ethos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZxPZGtZknc
this is my pathos song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN14Kdo6PZE
this is my logos song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY31fYgl1E0
this is my ethos song
this is my pathos song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN14Kdo6PZE
this is my logos song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY31fYgl1E0
this is my ethos song
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
vogler 4
Vogler, Christopher. “The Writer’s Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers." Studio City, CA: Michael Wiese Productions, 1998 p. 83-105
In this rendition of Vogler, the author is now talking about shadows, shape shifters, heralds, allies, and tricksters. Theses are the characters that either get in the heroes way or help them out. The shadows are the characters that are the most danger to the hero in stories, while the shape shifters are next in line. Most shape shifters are women it seems. I thought it was equally surprising that heralds could be bad guys. The trickster is often a character not used as often, but a powerful character to have in your story.
In my opinion I like the trickster more than any other character. I have read books like “The Tricksters Choice” about a girl who is kidnapped by pirates an sold to a family that she has to protect for a summer; ordered by the Crow God. But then again allies are very useful. Having an animal sidekick is total kickass. In my story my sidekick is my dog Jojoe.
Why do heroes need sidekicks if they are everything we need in a hero?
Are the allies as smart as the hero?
If you were a hero, would you want a sidekick, or an animal c
In this rendition of Vogler, the author is now talking about shadows, shape shifters, heralds, allies, and tricksters. Theses are the characters that either get in the heroes way or help them out. The shadows are the characters that are the most danger to the hero in stories, while the shape shifters are next in line. Most shape shifters are women it seems. I thought it was equally surprising that heralds could be bad guys. The trickster is often a character not used as often, but a powerful character to have in your story.
In my opinion I like the trickster more than any other character. I have read books like “The Tricksters Choice” about a girl who is kidnapped by pirates an sold to a family that she has to protect for a summer; ordered by the Crow God. But then again allies are very useful. Having an animal sidekick is total kickass. In my story my sidekick is my dog Jojoe.
Why do heroes need sidekicks if they are everything we need in a hero?
Are the allies as smart as the hero?
If you were a hero, would you want a sidekick, or an animal c
Thursday, September 18, 2008
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
vogler 2
Vogler, Christopher. “The Hero”, “The Archetypes”, and “The Mentor.” The Writer’s Journey.
Saline, Michigan: Mcnaught & Gunn 2007 49-79
Saline, Michigan: Mcnaught & Gunn 2007 49-79
threshhold guardian, herald, shapeshifter, shadow, ally, and trickster.
Summing up the archetypes, heroes, and mentors is damn hard. In the chapter about archetypes, the key thing that stood out to me was everyone follows those guide lines. Whether it is consciously or subconsciously those rules are always followed. Another interesting informational tidbit from archetypes is that every story teller has at least one of these archetypes in their story; hero, mentor, threshold guardian, herald, shapeshifter, shadow, ally, and/or trickster. These characters play such an important role, they help mold the main character. In the hero part, the hero can either be willing or unwilling, meaning, the hero can either be hyped up about saving people or he can be like a lump on a log like Shrek, who saved all the fairy tale creatures even though he didn’t want to, he just wanted his swamp/home back. A hero can also be the subdominant character, wheras the mentor or sidekick be the lead. Lastly is the mentor part of the reading. Mentors can pretty much be anyone, but most of the time they’re characterized as being old and sometimes even mysterious. Major creepers. But even though these old codgers are weird or deformed even, they give really good advice, and great presents!!! Also mentors can be willing or unwilling just like heroes.
In reaction to the text that I was willingly reading, the different types of characters that show up in every story I thought was very interesting. Next time I’m reading a book or watching a movie I’ll make sure to watch out for it. I especially liked the mention of baba yaga, that’s probably my favorite Russian character. I even see who the mentors are in my life now knowing that they can be willing or unwilling and can be shape shifters. Almost everyone in your life can be associated with a character in Voglers text. For example, my brothers would be my mentors, my dad would be the anti-hero and my mom would be my shaman. Whether the role big or small everyone has one.
Why are some of the characters able to become shape shifters?
What are some dangers that mentors face?
What does the mentor get out of helping the hero complete and succeed in their task?
vogler 2
Vogler, Christopher. “The Hero”, “The Archetypes”, and “The Mentor.” The Writer’s Journey.
Saline, Michigan: Mcnaught & Gunn 2007 23-47
Summing up the archetypes, heroes, and mentors is damn hard. In the chapter about archetypes, the key thing that stood out to me was everyone follows those guide lines. Whether it is consciously or subconsciously those rules are always followed. Another interesting informational tidbit from archetypes is that every story teller has at least one of these archetypes in their story; hero, mentor, threshold guardian, herald, shapeshifter, shadow, ally, and/or trickster. These characters play such an important role, they help mold the main character. In the hero part, the hero can either be willing or unwilling, meaning, the hero can either be hyped up about saving people or he can be like a lump on a log like Shrek, who saved all the fairy tale creatures even though he didn’t want to, he just wanted his swamp/home back. A hero can also be the subdominant character, wheras the mentor or sidekick be the lead. Lastly is the mentor part of the reading. Mentors can pretty much be anyone, but most of the time they’re characterized as being old and sometimes even mysterious. Major creepers. But even though these old codgers are weird or deformed even, they give really good advice, and great presents!!! Also mentors can be willing or unwilling just like heroes.
In reaction to the text that I was willingly reading, the different types of characters that show up in every story I thought was very interesting. Next time I’m reading a book or watching a movie I’ll make sure to watch out for it. I especially liked the mention of baba yaga, that’s probably my favorite Russian character. I even see who the mentors are in my life now knowing that they can be willing or unwilling and can be shape shifters. Almost everyone in your life can be associated with a character in Voglers text. For example, my brothers would be my mentors, my dad would be the anti-hero and my mom would be my shaman. Whether the role big or small everyone has one.
Why are some of the characters able to become shape shifters?
What are some dangers that mentors face?
What does the mentor get out of helping the hero complete and succeed in their task?
Saline, Michigan: Mcnaught & Gunn 2007 23-47
Summing up the archetypes, heroes, and mentors is damn hard. In the chapter about archetypes, the key thing that stood out to me was everyone follows those guide lines. Whether it is consciously or subconsciously those rules are always followed. Another interesting informational tidbit from archetypes is that every story teller has at least one of these archetypes in their story; hero, mentor, threshold guardian, herald, shapeshifter, shadow, ally, and/or trickster. These characters play such an important role, they help mold the main character. In the hero part, the hero can either be willing or unwilling, meaning, the hero can either be hyped up about saving people or he can be like a lump on a log like Shrek, who saved all the fairy tale creatures even though he didn’t want to, he just wanted his swamp/home back. A hero can also be the subdominant character, wheras the mentor or sidekick be the lead. Lastly is the mentor part of the reading. Mentors can pretty much be anyone, but most of the time they’re characterized as being old and sometimes even mysterious. Major creepers. But even though these old codgers are weird or deformed even, they give really good advice, and great presents!!! Also mentors can be willing or unwilling just like heroes.
In reaction to the text that I was willingly reading, the different types of characters that show up in every story I thought was very interesting. Next time I’m reading a book or watching a movie I’ll make sure to watch out for it. I especially liked the mention of baba yaga, that’s probably my favorite Russian character. I even see who the mentors are in my life now knowing that they can be willing or unwilling and can be shape shifters. Almost everyone in your life can be associated with a character in Voglers text. For example, my brothers would be my mentors, my dad would be the anti-hero and my mom would be my shaman. Whether the role big or small everyone has one.
Why are some of the characters able to become shape shifters?
What are some dangers that mentors face?
What does the mentor get out of helping the hero complete and succeed in their task?
Friday, September 12, 2008
an ordinary world
ordinary world: ordinary world is living with my mom in orlando florida in a little town by a lake. animals, siblings, grandparents.
call to adventure: the day my parents told me we were moving to tennessee because the hurricanes were getting too wild.
refusal to call: i obviously did want to go. all my friends were in orlando and that was the only place that i knew and called home.
meeting with the mentor: ? dont have one
crossing the first threshold: moved to tennessee and became the new girl
tests, allies, enemies: making new friends making good grades, keeping friends, evil teachers
approach the innermost cave: starting a new school with strange people
ordeal: they act differently, more conservative and im outgoing
reward: good friends, graduating high school a stronger more individualized
the road back: having to overcome being alone and doing things on my own, whats good for me like not having many friends my senior year and moving back to florida as a choice of my own
resurrection: moving back to florida and making a life here again and "trying" to be happy like i once was.
return with the elixer: being in the state i love going to the school that i really liked and makin new friends
call to adventure: the day my parents told me we were moving to tennessee because the hurricanes were getting too wild.
refusal to call: i obviously did want to go. all my friends were in orlando and that was the only place that i knew and called home.
meeting with the mentor: ? dont have one
crossing the first threshold: moved to tennessee and became the new girl
tests, allies, enemies: making new friends making good grades, keeping friends, evil teachers
approach the innermost cave: starting a new school with strange people
ordeal: they act differently, more conservative and im outgoing
reward: good friends, graduating high school a stronger more individualized
the road back: having to overcome being alone and doing things on my own, whats good for me like not having many friends my senior year and moving back to florida as a choice of my own
resurrection: moving back to florida and making a life here again and "trying" to be happy like i once was.
return with the elixer: being in the state i love going to the school that i really liked and makin new friends
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
Chapter One
Citation: Vogler, Christopher. “A Practical Guide.” The Writer’s Journey.
In Voglers text, chapter one “A Practical Guide” Vogler is trying to tell us about the journey that a hero embarks on. There are three acts, a beginning, middle, and an end. There are twelve “mountains” if I may, that the hero must cross over. Not wanting to waste time going over all of them, I believe the most important is “The Call to Adventure”. Without the “Call to Adventure” there is no reason for the hero to get up and go or if he does go to do a heroic action, what is the point. There was no initiative act stimulating his action. The call to adventure is also called the call to action. Basically, the call to action is the initiative for the hero to go out and do his job, protecting the innocent, righting the wrongs and fighting the root of evil in the story. It’s the “thing” that happens, the plea for help.
As a hero in any epic, the hero will learn the faces of good and evil. Although the hero may not get the girl, as in Star Wars, he learns valuable lessons on how to be better in his next epic battle. The information and insight is very critical, I am actually studying this text in another class so what I miss in one area I will surely pick up in the other. Anyways, the heroes’ journey and all that it consists of can really have any story stuck into it and be relatable and work.
~Why do people believe in heroes?
~What is the point of having myths?
~What makes people think that a person who does “heroic” things, a hero?
Citation: Vogler, Christopher. “A Practical Guide.” The Writer’s Journey.
In Voglers text, chapter one “A Practical Guide” Vogler is trying to tell us about the journey that a hero embarks on. There are three acts, a beginning, middle, and an end. There are twelve “mountains” if I may, that the hero must cross over. Not wanting to waste time going over all of them, I believe the most important is “The Call to Adventure”. Without the “Call to Adventure” there is no reason for the hero to get up and go or if he does go to do a heroic action, what is the point. There was no initiative act stimulating his action. The call to adventure is also called the call to action. Basically, the call to action is the initiative for the hero to go out and do his job, protecting the innocent, righting the wrongs and fighting the root of evil in the story. It’s the “thing” that happens, the plea for help.
As a hero in any epic, the hero will learn the faces of good and evil. Although the hero may not get the girl, as in Star Wars, he learns valuable lessons on how to be better in his next epic battle. The information and insight is very critical, I am actually studying this text in another class so what I miss in one area I will surely pick up in the other. Anyways, the heroes’ journey and all that it consists of can really have any story stuck into it and be relatable and work.
~Why do people believe in heroes?
~What is the point of having myths?
~What makes people think that a person who does “heroic” things, a hero?
Monday, September 8, 2008
free write all
People that would find the most surprising thing about me is that ….i love to play with my food and I make really funny faces and take pictures and put them on my myspace, also that im really outgoing when im with my frineds and totally chill around guys. I love to read fairy tales about goblins and elve and fairies and . im not a virgin…. Im not actually from Tennessee even thought I have a southern accent. That’ im not really that smart im more common sense kinda person. That I used to write a lot and won awards but im easily influenced and when ppl tell me my writing is bad I stopped doing it.A major turning point in my life was when I started daing this guy quint, quit doing all the thigs I loved and got into fights whith my friends and I was pretty much alone my entire senior year since I switched schools for him and he dumped me the first month of school for a girl that was17 nd had a kid already. I was also working at mcdonalds with him so out of working there and depression I gained 20 pounds tha ti had lost a few years b4 and I graduated high school with him and left making a new life back in florida losing weight making new friends and becoming the person that I really am and who I really want to be because if I stayed at mcdonalds I wouldn’t have taken the choice to be successful in my life but living in a trailer with 20 babies on my hips and my xmas lights on all year round.My top 3 news years resolutions have been.Get better grades in schoolLose weightMake new friendsNo nail bitingGet organizedMy greatest fear in life is…. Being alone like not having someone to share my life with to cuddle with to read or walk on the beach with .
I was named after the queen Elizabeth and my grandmothers middle name was Elizabeth
Ive never left the country b4 but I am going to jamaca next year on a cruise and the cayman islands and mexico
The farthest place ive traveled was ohio, my dad moved up there after he left my mom and I would go visit him sometimes… it wasn’t very fun, pretty but not fun my step brother n sister didn’t like me an I was young and stupid so they hated being around me but guess whos laughing now my step sister is living with someone 10 yrs older an all they do is go to bars and drink and im going to college to have a life shes just gonna b a drunken loser the rest of her life
Ive actually grown up in a few neighborhoods but mostly they were white people, kinda bluecollarish . like ive lived in a trailer b4 and ive lived in the hills, backwoods of Tennessee.so yea mostly down to earth homely white folks
I was named after the queen Elizabeth and my grandmothers middle name was Elizabeth
Ive never left the country b4 but I am going to jamaca next year on a cruise and the cayman islands and mexico
The farthest place ive traveled was ohio, my dad moved up there after he left my mom and I would go visit him sometimes… it wasn’t very fun, pretty but not fun my step brother n sister didn’t like me an I was young and stupid so they hated being around me but guess whos laughing now my step sister is living with someone 10 yrs older an all they do is go to bars and drink and im going to college to have a life shes just gonna b a drunken loser the rest of her life
Ive actually grown up in a few neighborhoods but mostly they were white people, kinda bluecollarish . like ive lived in a trailer b4 and ive lived in the hills, backwoods of Tennessee.so yea mostly down to earth homely white folks
Friday, September 5, 2008
What Disney Character Am I Most Like
Disney has founded a basis for women everywhere as an archetype for social behavior. Because Disney is at the heart of American pop culture now, in order to exist in our society, we must liken ourselves to the stereotypes set forth by this company. Although to some this may seem to be a bad thing because women are forced not to be individuals but instead to be princesses, I positively see myself as the native american princess, Pocahontas. My love of nature and Native American roots tie me best with her. Like Pocahontas when I fall in “love” I usually protect and stand up for what I believe is my future “john smith” but it never works out and I’m normally wrong and I move on to the next guy. Pocahontas thought she knew everything like every other teenager and loved animals. She was definitely a daddies girl; me too.
Pocahontas was a very curious person and loved learning about new things and experience new ideals. I also will try anything once. she is very furtive, for exampe when she sneeks off to go see the ship come into the bay where she lives. The way I am furtive or sneeky is when i want something i beat around the bush and hint at what i really want.
Pocahontas was a very curious person and loved learning about new things and experience new ideals. I also will try anything once. she is very furtive, for exampe when she sneeks off to go see the ship come into the bay where she lives. The way I am furtive or sneeky is when i want something i beat around the bush and hint at what i really want.
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