Vogler, Christopher. “The Hero”, “The Archetypes”, and “The Mentor.” The Writer’s Journey.Saline, Michigan: Mcnaught & Gunn 2007 23-47
As Vogler states on page twenty-four “The concept of archetypes is an indispensible tool for understanding the purpose or function of a character in a story”. In saying this, Vogler is explaining archetypes and what they do for the story. Also Vogler is exploring as he was writing a story that his characters were not staying as normal characters but really changing. For example, a mentor would not always stay a mentor but change maybe into a shadow. Archetypes are classified as “personified symbols of various human qualities”. The next chapter that Vogler talks about Heroes. The Greek definition of a hero is to protect and to serve. In this chapter, Vogler outlines what is needed to be a hero, growth, action, sacrifice, dealing with death, and flaws in the character; Also giving anti-heroes, loner heroes, and catalyst heroes a shed of light. An anti-hero is a character going against the grain, not nessicarily a bad guy but deffinitly not a good guy. Loner heroes are those few that like to complete tasks on their own, without the help of others or side kicks. And lastly catalyst heroes are not normal heroes; normal heroes change themselves whereas catalyst heroes bring about changes in others.
In response to these chapters, Vogler has made a great explanation of what kinds of heroes there are and where the word came from. Also that even if a character is supposed to be solid and not change, the character will change nonetheless.
What other types of heroes do you think there are; if any?
Can these methods be put to the test in movies?
Which hero do you think most represents the heroes in the world?
Thursday, October 23, 2008
Monday, October 20, 2008
I LOVEEEEEE
i love having my own room i think im not even going to find a new roommate, just stay in the room. I'm sure the housing people will forget about me haha I'M SO HAPPY I'M GETTING SO MUCH WORK DONE!!!! no distractions!!!
vogler 6...where did my first one go???
Vogler, Christopher. “Book Two; Stage Five: Crossing the First Threshold & Stage Six: Tests, Allies, Enemies.” The Writer’s Journey. Studio City, CA: Michael Wiese Productions, 2007. 127-141.
The first chapter is about the refusal to call. Which the hero makes up excuses not to make the journey or there are difficult roadblocks that they think they cannot overcome. Also the hero may have more than one call to adventure. Sometimes though, when a hero refuses the call he is making the smart choice and saving himself from something bad. The next chapter is about meeting with the mentor. Which the mentor can actually shape shift and become the thresh hold guardian. The mentor guides the hero into the unknown world showing her the “map” of where the evil monsters are, where the good berries are and etcetera.
I think it is very interesting that the name and origin of the Greek mentor who mentored all the great heroes of the ancient time like Hercules and Achilles. Also I believe that in some form or another, every hero refuses one call or another, I mean who wants to hear about a hero that beats everyone. It doesn’t show that the hero is a human but rather a killing fighting machine that is bent on being a hero. And the meeting with the mentor how great is that, I want to meet an old guy in the woods and get magical presents from him how great would that be.
Why do you think heroes need mentors?
Do you think a hero is still noble if he refuses a call?
How would you feel of you saw a half man half horse teaching arrow lessons?
The first chapter is about the refusal to call. Which the hero makes up excuses not to make the journey or there are difficult roadblocks that they think they cannot overcome. Also the hero may have more than one call to adventure. Sometimes though, when a hero refuses the call he is making the smart choice and saving himself from something bad. The next chapter is about meeting with the mentor. Which the mentor can actually shape shift and become the thresh hold guardian. The mentor guides the hero into the unknown world showing her the “map” of where the evil monsters are, where the good berries are and etcetera.
I think it is very interesting that the name and origin of the Greek mentor who mentored all the great heroes of the ancient time like Hercules and Achilles. Also I believe that in some form or another, every hero refuses one call or another, I mean who wants to hear about a hero that beats everyone. It doesn’t show that the hero is a human but rather a killing fighting machine that is bent on being a hero. And the meeting with the mentor how great is that, I want to meet an old guy in the woods and get magical presents from him how great would that be.
Why do you think heroes need mentors?
Do you think a hero is still noble if he refuses a call?
How would you feel of you saw a half man half horse teaching arrow lessons?
EXTRA CREDIT
ok i did all the extra credit work for week 3 through 6, the youtube videos were....omg. and the random act of kindness i would want to do is collect flowers and give them to random students on campus who aren't smiling at the moment.... sweet huh
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
vogler 7
Vogler, Christopher. “Approach to the Inner Most Cave” “The Ordeal” The Writer’s Journey:Mythic Structure for Writers. 3rd Edition. Studio City, California: Michael Wiese Productions,2007. 143-173.
There are many different aspects and scenes that are contained inside the inner most cave. Most of these obstacles are dangerous to the heroes journey to The Ordeal. The inner most cave is where the heroes and their men are joyous and have their last cigarette before they enter this new world with a different set of rules. also in the ordeal, this is the part where something changes the hero forever, whether it be good or bad. the placement of the Ordeal differs in every story. The points of tension are a very important structure technique that helps support keeping the audiences attenion. Also there is a lot of talk about death in these chapters such as hero witnesses death, hero causes death, hero appears to die, taste of death, and death of a villian, now not all of these can actually be life losing death but maybe the death of a relationship or an era.
As time goes on in this reading I am becoming more and more interested and I find myself looking at the people in my life and looking at the obstacles I have faced. Though sometimes it is easier to point out who is what character in someone else’s hero story than my own. Like in my own hero story my approach to the inner-most cave is when I Kassandra moves to Siseria. as with the witness to sacrifice, it really explained something about myself that I never knew; anyone being in a near death experience just makes life seem so much sweeter and important. People who have never been in that sort of situation willnever know what it's like, they may say they know or learn to live their life better in a sense where life is a precious thing, but to those who have been in a near death experience, like the hero, it changed me. It's kind of like having a baby, only those who have had one can say they know exactly what it's like compared to those who say they know what it's like but have never experienced it.
Why should a hero have to make these transitions?
What is vogler trying to say about our own person?
What is suppose to change in the hero
There are many different aspects and scenes that are contained inside the inner most cave. Most of these obstacles are dangerous to the heroes journey to The Ordeal. The inner most cave is where the heroes and their men are joyous and have their last cigarette before they enter this new world with a different set of rules. also in the ordeal, this is the part where something changes the hero forever, whether it be good or bad. the placement of the Ordeal differs in every story. The points of tension are a very important structure technique that helps support keeping the audiences attenion. Also there is a lot of talk about death in these chapters such as hero witnesses death, hero causes death, hero appears to die, taste of death, and death of a villian, now not all of these can actually be life losing death but maybe the death of a relationship or an era.
As time goes on in this reading I am becoming more and more interested and I find myself looking at the people in my life and looking at the obstacles I have faced. Though sometimes it is easier to point out who is what character in someone else’s hero story than my own. Like in my own hero story my approach to the inner-most cave is when I Kassandra moves to Siseria. as with the witness to sacrifice, it really explained something about myself that I never knew; anyone being in a near death experience just makes life seem so much sweeter and important. People who have never been in that sort of situation willnever know what it's like, they may say they know or learn to live their life better in a sense where life is a precious thing, but to those who have been in a near death experience, like the hero, it changed me. It's kind of like having a baby, only those who have had one can say they know exactly what it's like compared to those who say they know what it's like but have never experienced it.
Why should a hero have to make these transitions?
What is vogler trying to say about our own person?
What is suppose to change in the hero
Friday, October 3, 2008
project two I-search
Project Two I-Search
Eckerd College
As you begin to move from writing about yourself to writing about others, you will want to locate a topic or a theme from your memoir. As mentioned, the theme doesn’t have to be a direct link to your memoir, but you do need to evidence the larger concern’s appearance or treatment in your memoir. You are entering the first stage of the Project Two Process.
What are some of the larger themes in my memoir? (Themes such as: compassion, knowledge, economics, race, class, gender, politics, etc) Think about what your story ultimately deals with. Have fun and select some topics that you WANT to explore?
Well my paper already talks about the importance of knowledge. Other topics that I would like to explore are race or culture even. I love going places and learning what they do everyday.
Now select one of those themes and brainstorm for a bit about the theme and how it appears in the cultural environment. For instance, if you choose compassion, then you may list ideas such as the Peace Movement, Humane treatment of animals, or issues related to Human Rights such as torture, genocide, etc.
Well I chose culture and race, so groups can be summed up as something that shares a common interest almost. For example, the culture in Florida is different of that in Tennessee. So I am assuming that each state has a different culture or things that they do that are different from the whole of America. And I would like to learn about that.
3. Here is where you write one or two paragraphs, discussing what knowledge, experience, or background you already have about your topic, BEFORE having done any research on it. Explore your positions in regards to the topic.
My topic is obviously knowledge and with knowledge you only know as much as you have learned and retained. So in response I don’t know as much as other people and some people don’t know as much as me in some areas. For example I know how to speak German. Many others know Spanish and I couldn’t speak Spanish to save my life. I believe that my story is a journey to acquire as much knowledge as possible, see others peoples mistakes and learn from my own as well as theirs. To understand and accept others cultures and teach about my own even so that they may have the chance to learn from others.
Eckerd College
As you begin to move from writing about yourself to writing about others, you will want to locate a topic or a theme from your memoir. As mentioned, the theme doesn’t have to be a direct link to your memoir, but you do need to evidence the larger concern’s appearance or treatment in your memoir. You are entering the first stage of the Project Two Process.
What are some of the larger themes in my memoir? (Themes such as: compassion, knowledge, economics, race, class, gender, politics, etc) Think about what your story ultimately deals with. Have fun and select some topics that you WANT to explore?
Well my paper already talks about the importance of knowledge. Other topics that I would like to explore are race or culture even. I love going places and learning what they do everyday.
Now select one of those themes and brainstorm for a bit about the theme and how it appears in the cultural environment. For instance, if you choose compassion, then you may list ideas such as the Peace Movement, Humane treatment of animals, or issues related to Human Rights such as torture, genocide, etc.
Well I chose culture and race, so groups can be summed up as something that shares a common interest almost. For example, the culture in Florida is different of that in Tennessee. So I am assuming that each state has a different culture or things that they do that are different from the whole of America. And I would like to learn about that.
3. Here is where you write one or two paragraphs, discussing what knowledge, experience, or background you already have about your topic, BEFORE having done any research on it. Explore your positions in regards to the topic.
My topic is obviously knowledge and with knowledge you only know as much as you have learned and retained. So in response I don’t know as much as other people and some people don’t know as much as me in some areas. For example I know how to speak German. Many others know Spanish and I couldn’t speak Spanish to save my life. I believe that my story is a journey to acquire as much knowledge as possible, see others peoples mistakes and learn from my own as well as theirs. To understand and accept others cultures and teach about my own even so that they may have the chance to learn from others.
quizzzz
1. Connect the Ordinary World and the Call to Adventure to your reading of Book 1 of _The Metamorphosis_ Explain the connection.
the ordinary world is before he woke up. dreamland was/is normal and his home before going to bed was normal. his parents expected him to succeed at work and take care of the family, to keep his job. and the call to adventure would be when his parents knock on the door to ask him if he was going to get the 7am train since he missed the earlier one and of course it goes into him refusing the call then accepting when his boss gets there.
2. Are there any social issues being critiqued in the story? How does "The Red Scare" relate to Kafka's work?
i really honestly have no idea how "The Red Scare" has anything to do with this story unless i over-looked something. But the social issue is, the parents dont work..why are they sitting at home while this guy goes out for long periods of time working his tai off while they sit around eatting breakfast for hours on end everyday and then bitch at the guy for not making htem proud and keeping his job. thats a little screwed up.
3. What does Gregor turn into in the story?
i wanted to say a cockroach because of the weird shell but then i wanna say a millipede,centipede i dont know...some sort of multi-legged "vermin".
the ordinary world is before he woke up. dreamland was/is normal and his home before going to bed was normal. his parents expected him to succeed at work and take care of the family, to keep his job. and the call to adventure would be when his parents knock on the door to ask him if he was going to get the 7am train since he missed the earlier one and of course it goes into him refusing the call then accepting when his boss gets there.
2. Are there any social issues being critiqued in the story? How does "The Red Scare" relate to Kafka's work?
i really honestly have no idea how "The Red Scare" has anything to do with this story unless i over-looked something. But the social issue is, the parents dont work..why are they sitting at home while this guy goes out for long periods of time working his tai off while they sit around eatting breakfast for hours on end everyday and then bitch at the guy for not making htem proud and keeping his job. thats a little screwed up.
3. What does Gregor turn into in the story?
i wanted to say a cockroach because of the weird shell but then i wanna say a millipede,centipede i dont know...some sort of multi-legged "vermin".
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